Blood Safety: Resolution - November 1998
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
OFFICE OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SCIENCE
ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON BLOOD SAFETY AND AVAILABILITY
SIXTH MEETING
Tuesday, November 24, 1998
8:39 a.m.
Omni Shoreham Hotel
2500 Calvert Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20008
P A R T I C I P A N T S
Members
Arthur Caplan, Ph.D.
Stephen D. Nightingale, M.D., Executive Secretary
Janice K. Albrecht, Ph.D.
Larry Allen
James P. AuBuchon, M.D.
Michael P. Busch, M.D., Ph.D.
Ronald Gilcher, M.D.
Edward D. Gomperts, M.D.
Fernando Guerra, M.D.
Paul F. Haas, Ph.D.
William Hoots, M.D.
Carolyn D. Jones, J.D., M.P.H.
Dana Kuhn, Ph.D.
Tricia O'Connor
John Penner, M.D.
Jane A. Piliavin, Ph.D.
Eugene R. Schiff, M.D.
Marian Gray Secundy, Ph.D.
John Walsh
Consultants
Richard J. Davey, M.D.
Kristine A. Moore, M.D., M.P.H.
Ex Officio Members
Mary E. Chamberland, M.D.
David Feigal, M.D.
Paul R. McCurdy, M.D.
Capt. Bruce Rutherford, MSC, USN
David Snyder, R.Ph., D.D.S.
Also Present:
Jay Epstein, M.D., FDA
Eric Goosby, M.D., DHHS
Lawrence McMurtry, Deputy Executive Secretary
C O N T E N T S
AGENDA ITEM PAGE
Roll Call, Conflict of Interest Announcement 3
Welcome from the Chairman 9
Centers for Disease Control 16
Food and Drug Administration 56
Interorganizational Task Force on HCV Lookback 87
Blood Recipient Organizations 100
American Liver Foundation 115
Lunch 150
Committee Discussion 151
Motions 178
Adjournment 268
P R O C E E D I N G S
DR. NIGHTINGALE: It is one minute after 8:00 in the morning. Good morning. I'm
Dr. Stephen Nightingale, the Executive Secretary of the Advisory Committee on
Blood Safety and Availability and welcome to our Sixth Meeting.
The following announcement is made as part of the public record to preclude even
the appearance of a conflict of interest at this meeting. General applicability
has been approved for all Committee members. This means that unless a particular
matter is brought before this Committee that deals with a specific product or
firm, it has been determined that all interests reported by the Committee
members present no potential conflict of interest when evaluated against the
official agenda.
In particular, as specified in Title XVIII of the US Code at Chapter 208(b)(2),
a Special Government Employee--which all voting Committee members are--may
participate in a matter of general applicability even if they are presently
employed or have the prospect of being employed by an entity that might be
affected by a decision of the Committee, provided that the matter will not have
a special or distinct effect on the employee or the employer, other than as a
part of the class. The example given in 5 CFR 2640.203, which implements Title
XVIII of the US Code, is as follows:
A chemist employed by a major pharmaceutical company has been appointed to serve
on an advisory committee established to develop recommendations for new
standards for AIDS vaccine trials involving human subjects. Even though the
chemist's employer is in the process of developing an experimental AIDS vaccine
and therefore will be affected by the new standards, the chemist may participate
in formulating the advisory committee's recommendations. The chemist's employer
will be affected by the new standards only as part of the class of all
pharmaceutical companies and other research entities that are attempting to
develop an AIDS vaccine.
Committee members have been given a copy of this section of the Code. Additional
copies are available at the desk.
In the event the discussions involve a specific product or a specific firm in
which a member has a financial interest, that member should exclude him- or
herself from the discussion, and that exclusion will be noted for the public
record.
With respect to the other meeting participants, I ask in the interest of
fairness that they disclose any current or previous financial arrangements with
any specific product or specific firm upon which they plan to comment.
Finally, I will make every effort to see that the transcript and the summary of
this meeting and the final draft of any recommendations will be posted on our
Web site by the close of business Monday, November 30th. The Web address is
www.hhs.gov/partner/Blood Safety.
Now, would the Chairman and members please signify their attendance when I call
their names? Dr. Caplan?
CHAIRMAN CAPLAN: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Albrecht?
DR. ALBRECHT: Present.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Mr. Allen?
MR. ALLEN: Present.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. AuBuchon?
DR. AuBUCHON: Present.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Busch? Dr. Busch?
[No response.]
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Chamberland?
DR. CHAMBERLAND: Present.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Davey?
DR. DAVEY: Yes.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Feigal?
DR. FEIGAL: Yes.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Gilcher?
DR. GILCHER: Yes.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Gomperts?
DR. GOMPERTS: Yes.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Goosby?
DR. GOOSBY: Yes.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Guerra?
DR. GUERRA: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: I know that Dr. Haas is unable to make the meeting. We hope all
goes well with him and his family.
Dr. Hoots?
DR. HOOTS: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Ms. Jones? Ms. Jones?
[No response.]
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Kuhn?
DR. KUHN: Present.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. McCurdy?
DR. McCURDY: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Moore?
DR. MOORE: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Ms. O'Connor?
MS. O'CONNOR: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Penner?
DR. PENNER: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Piliavin?
DR. PILIAVIN: Piliavin.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Piliavin. I apologize once again.
Captain Rutherford?
CAPTAIN RUTHERFORD: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Schiff?
DR. SCHIFF: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Secundy?
DR. SECUNDY: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Dr. Snyder?
DR. SNYDER: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Mr. Walsh?
MR. WALSH: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Thank you. We'd note that Dr. Busch is present at the meeting.
Also present is Dr. Epstein, the Director of the Office of Blood Research and
Review of FDA. Dr. Epstein?
DR. EPSTEIN: Here.
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Thank you. The agenda for today's meeting is the Seventh Report
of the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight titled "Hepatitis C:
Silent Epidemic, Mute Public Health Response." Dr. Caplan, the Chairman of the
Advisory Committee, will preside.
Dr. Caplan?
CHAIRMAN CAPLAN: Well, we have a busy day this morning. I want to remind the
Committee that we've really been asked by the Surgeon General to take a look at
this Seventh Report of the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight
from October 15th. We've sent it to the Committee, I think, at least four times,
in my memory of mails that have come. So I hope that the message was clear to
pay attention to this.
I want to just look at three findings and three recommendations in brief. You
know, when we've met in the past, we've had to scramble to the slides and the
overheads, concocting language as we drive toward consensus on certain matters
pertaining to blood safety and availabilty. But in this case, we've got
something to respond to by the end of the day. It doesn't limit us, but there
are some things we're supposed to say something about.
The findings of this report were as follows: The Federal response to the
hepatitis C epidemic has lacked focus and energy. Secondly, the proposed HCV
lookback is too limited. Third, private organizations with some Federal
assistance have taken the lead in HCV public education efforts. I can say that
if you read the report, that was said with a critical edge to it, that private
organizations should not be taking the lead on this. And there are a series of
recommendations, and I'm inside the report on page 2 of it, just to remind you
again.
The Secretary of HHS should take the lead in coordinating the Federal public
health response to the hepatitis C epidemic, including implementation of a
research plan. The Department of Defense should test recruits, active-duty
personnel, and those about to be discharged for hepatitis C infection. The
Department of Veterans Affairs should conduct additional studies of the
prevalence of hepatitis C in veterans' populations. The hepatitis C lookback
plan should be expanded, and the Federal education campaign for HCV infection
should be launched immediately.
What this report wound up concluding, arguing, was that they were not convinced
that the Government was making the public health response to the hepatitis C
epidemic that was required, and so we've been asked to think about, listen to
testimony today on those matters, and then to reaffirm or add or come back and
change what we've been told by that particular subcommittee of the House about
this particular problem.
I want to just note something else that caught my eye. I collected a couple of
things since our last meeting. Some of them, again, Dr. Nightingale, Mac, did a
great job getting materials out to you. Some of you know there were articles in
the New England Journal last week on combination therapy for hepatitis C. While
far from a cure, they were optimistic. I'm not going to go through those
articles or the editorial ran, but things are moving fast in the area of
intervention for hepatitis C. That means, I think personally, that the ante is
raised about the importance of lookback. The ante is raised about the importance
of public education campaigns.
I have a friend who has hepatitis C, and he's been trying very hard to get
access to different forms of therapy, combination therapies. He believes that
the right response for him with his infection is to try and clear the virus from
his body. And I asked him if he felt that this Government and our country was
doing what we should to respond to hepatitis C epidemic, and he said no, because
every day he meets people who didn't realize that they might be infected.
That is not a good situation. So it is, I think, our mandate to the American
people to make sure that if this problem is out there and if there are steps
they can take, either through the cessation of drinking, watching what they do
with ibuprofen, getting themselves vaccinated against other forms of hepatitis,
not sharing razors, or moving towards some of these emerging interventions, we
have to make sure that people are aware of what they need to be aware of, that
medical and health communities are able to answer questions and inform them.
So that's how I see our task, as against that backdrop of saying, well, if there
are steps that can be taken to reduce infection, if there are steps that might
be taken to reduce the burden of the disease, if, as other statistics show,
we've got 4 million people infected and an explosion in the number of people
getting liver transplants due to this particular virus, we have to make sure
we're doing all that we can do in terms of a response, both public and private,
to hepatitis C.
I'd just mention one last comment, and then we'll go to the first witness.
This is a statement from the American Association for the Study of Liver
Diseases. They had a meeting in Chicago and thoughtfully sent me a statement
about one of the things they are bothered about. And they reported at that
meeting about the challenge of hepatitis C, what it was doing in terms of cost
and burden to the American people. But this statement caught my eye.
The main reason for the drastic increase in severe hepatitis C-related liver
disease--that means leading to transplant, leading to death--is that 90 percent
of people with chronic hepatitis C don't know they have it.
Well, that's not an acceptable situation. If that's what the problem is, then
we've got to make sure we are vigilant in pushing to make sure that that number
is much smaller.
So I'll stop there. That's our charge. We want to be mindful of the fact that by
the end of the day we have to say something about this report and what we want
to tell the Surgeon General and, through indirection, the other Federal agencies
here and even Congress. I suspect we might even say if we want them to spend
some more money, we might say they should spend some more money. What the heck?
It's not ours. Well, indirectly. It's so far distant.
So we can move now to the first witness, having reminded you why we're here and
what we're trying to do. I think we're going to hear from CDC first?
DR. NIGHTINGALE: Hear from CDC.
CHAIRMAN CAPLAN: I don't know who we've got from CDC. Oh, Dr. Alter?
DR. ALTER: Thank you. Good morning. I'm Miriam Alter from the Hepatitis Branch
of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, and you should all
have a hard copy--most of you should have a hard copy of the presentation. There
may be one or two of you who do not because we may not have brought enough
copies. But if that's the case, I'll be showing the exact same information on
the slides, and we will get you a hard copy if you need it.
As the first presentation today, we would like to review the guiding principles
which underlie the recommendations made by this Committee last year.
Identifying transfusion recipients at potential risk for HCV infection can be
accomplished with two approaches: targeted lookback, which is the direct
notification of prior recipients of donors who later tested positive for HCV,
and how we define positive may, in fact, be the major crux of all the issues
we're dealing with; and general lookback, which includes public notification
through broad education campaigns about the need to be tested, as well as
education of health care professionals to routinely ascertain transfusion
histories of their patients and test those with such a history.
Targeted lookback for transfusion recipients at potential risk for HCV infection
has several advantages. It focuses on a specific group known to be at risk. It
reaches persons unaware they were transfused. And it is perceived as proactive.
This approach also has several disadvantages. Many notifications may be based on
false positive results because supp